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[camwyn]

The new comment page is hideous, and I have said as much in the official Livejournal feedback form. Not being able to preview how my comment will look when I use HTML is annoying. Similarly, my icons take forever to load and I would have been happy with the keyword list. And finally, I want my ability to fill in a subject line back. WITHOUT having to use customized comment pages with a particular style.

I have turned off auto-payment on six paid accounts because I do not believe in paying money to be sneered at by a Livejournal programmer who thinks I'm not worth listening to because I'm part of the 'one percent' of users who utilize the features he took away. Livejournal's horrible customer service does not deserve to be rewarded with my money.

Once again, the official feedback form is at this link, for whatever good that does.

Comments

[ashen_key]

Speaking of sneering, have you seen LJ's latest Writer's Block?

I've gone past being pissed at their latest release (and pissed I am, not the least because their new icon-selection USES UP MY VERY EXPENSIVE AND LIMITED INTERNET) to being actively insulted.

-_-

[camwyn]

Oh, you have got to be kidding me.

If I wanted this level of reaming I'd be visiting a proctologist.

[ashen_key]

Yeah.

I really like the sensation of being trolled by a service that I pay (PAID!) a large amount of my fairly limited funds to, don't you?

[camwyn]

With apologies to sex workers everywhere:

I have heard people in fits of frustration call Livejournal a whore. Livejournal is not a whore. Whores give you service when you pay them.

[newredshoes]

Oh my god.

Uh, on the plus side, they seem to have forgotten that I'm not a paid account and given me all the icons I gave up a year and a half ago when I stopped paying for LJ.

[newredshoes]

Wait, or not. They're just showing them to me. WELL THAT'S INCORRECT.

[ashen_key]

Yep! They just...show you the icons! Leaving you to only work out that you can't use them once you've already commented!

This is apparently useful.

[ashen_key]

Exactly.

Fuck this, I'm going to bed. Maybe when I wake up everything will be bloody well fixed.

[innerbrat]

Agh, I was hoping it wasn't going to be this bad.

SHOWS WHAT I KNOW.

[antepathy.livejournal.com]

I have people on my f-list who are like WUT THIS IS FINE STOP COMPLAINING. Ummm, wow. No. This sucks.

I'm not that upset about anoncomms, but man, this is going to be suuuuckcity for RP. How are you guys handling it? S2 styles with custom comments enabled still have old comment styles...but...that's a) not for long, probably and b) not a great thing because of S2's squishing. Any thoughts?

[camwyn]

Honestly? Don't know. The change happened late last night, around 1 AM American Eastern time, and there haven't been that many people at milliways_bar posting in the early morning hours for some time, so it may be that we'll hear from them later in the day.

In the meantime, I paid for LJ service. What I'm getting now is not what I wanted, not what I asked for, and not what I should have to take. This isn't "why are you bitching, it's free". This is me, as a customer, getting given something I didn't want or agree to in any way, shape, or form, and being told to take it because they're not going to give my money back.

As I said in another thread, LJ is not a whore. Whores give you the service you want when you pay them.

[neotoma.livejournal.com]

I'm kind of scared to look at my comms and the various kink-memes, not to mention what this will do to things like Fandom Stocking...

[antepathy.livejournal.com]

Oh yes. I already had that argument with someone on twitter. Because I DO pay for this service and that means that I want *minimum* the functionality and features that were in effect when I joined into that contract. It's like your cell phone company suddenly deciding they were going to cut your features but not giving you a price cut.

This is not what I paid for. Right now my LJ and such are S2 so they're not immediately impacted...FOR NOW. And I'm hardly devastated that this will damage anoncomms. Kinkmemes are going to be a mess and RP? Maybe it won't be as horrible as I think, but it's still going to be ugly.

[sdelmonte]

Ummm...I like being able to see my user pics, since I don't really remember what they look like.

Then again, I don't really use them the way everyone else does. I think I have more than one pic at Milliways because it's sort of the norm.

And to be honest, when I saw that "rant about something" Writer's Bloc, my first thought was about Congress. I am a lot angrier at them than I could ever be about LJ.

[antepathy.livejournal.com]

Oh gosh I hadn't even thought of fandom_stocking! o_O

LJ. Srsly. It's like they hate fandom!

[gehayi.livejournal.com]

I think they just hate the non-Russian customers. Did you know I can't even preview comments with the new system? I can edit them if they're fucked up, but I can't preview them to make sure that they're okay (or that their HTML is okay) in the first place.

[camwyn]

I have been angry about Congress for a very long time. This most recent round of voting is just the dung icing on a rotten meat cake.

When I see someone say 'rant about something', I don't see them saying 'tell me your justifiable reasons for anger'. I see them saying 'oh, wow, a crazy person! Let's listen to the crazy person's crazy rage! It's just a rant, and we don't have to pay attention to it, because the ranter is crazy with rage instead of being justified.' Either that or 'You're angry. Let off some steam in a place where it won't offend anyone and where the people you're actually angry at won't hear you, because it's a designated ranting place and only people who want to hear the anger of others ever go there.'

Either way, it came across as condescending.

[camwyn]

I've been looking at igrick's post.

The Russian users are showing up demanding to know what the hell he did and why he hasn't changed it back.

[genarti]

I don't mind being able to see my icons. You could in the old style too, if you clicked the "Browse" button, and sometimes I found that useful.

What I mind is being forced to use that method to navigate. I have 131 icons on this journal, because I paid for that service. In this new style, if I know exactly what icon I want to use, I have to scroll through all 131 to select it, each and every time. If I'm on a slow internet connection, I still have to load 131 thumbnail pictures if I want to use any of those extra icons I paid LJ for, each and every time. And if I used a screenreader, I'd... be even angrier than I am, probably, because I can't imagine this is very accessible for those.

[gehayi.livejournal.com]

HAH! I love it.

And as things stand now, I see no reason to renew my paid account. I would be paying for abilities that LJ isn't letting me have any more. Since being a paid customer conveys no actual benefit, why pay for it?

[camwyn]

I think at this point the major benefits of being a paid user is the ability to edit posted comments and the absence of ads when browsing.

I use Opera, which has a built in content blocker, and when I use Chrome, I have Adblock.

I can learn to write my comments in Notepad and paste them in once they're edited, thanks.

[sophistry]

I was thinking about Milliways as I was doing some chores about the house; I'm thinking maybe wait 24 hours or so to see if LJ does an emergency roll-back, and if not, then figure out which is the most usable S2 style, and... wing it from there, I guess?

(Are custom comment pages a paid account feature? I can't remember, because I never used them, BECAUSE THE LJ DEFAULT WAS PERFECT UGH.)

[camwyn]

That sounds reasonable to me. Maybe 48 hours, because I don't trust them not to have made the changes and then all gone off to get drunk and party and only check their mail after they've slept it off. But after that, yeah, we'll have to look at usable S2 styles if they haven't come to some measure of sense.

[sophistry]

With props to Gen's clever linkage, this looks like a workable solution (or one in progress, anyway). It's not particularly pretty front-page-wise, but comment pages are much more important w/r/t functionality. Plus, I figure either it'll be a stopgap measure until LJ gets their shit together, or uh. We'll have plenty of time to tweak it later.

God, LJ, why are you like this.

[camwyn]

In the words of the gentleman who made the Complete History Of The Soviet Union Set To The Melody From Tetris,

The US gave us crystal meth
And Yeltsin drank himself to death
But now that Putin's put the boot in, who'll get in our way?

So we reject free enterprise
And once again the Left will rise
Prepare the flags to be unfurled,
'Cause we're seceding from the world...