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[camwyn]

One of the hazards of operating on remarkably little sleep (which happens when one's Blackberry goes "OH HAI UR SURVUR CLOZIT, IT ARE TOO HOT" at 2:30-3:15 AM) is that it makes your brain fire off a couple of neurons that normally couldn't be bothered to interface.

drharper, possibly mephron? I was reminded, as I was pawing through fanficrants and marysues, that about a year and a half ago at both dear_multiverse and milliways_bar I established Ray as being of 3/4 Russian ancestry- his father's family, and his mother's maternal lineage. His grandfather Max was a youngish teenager when he managed to get the flock out of Poland during the Second World War, before the Germans and/or the Russians could completely nail down his part of the country- some people simply are not cut out to be partisans, you know? And it seemed a shame, given that my own ancestry is rife with ethnic conflicts that seem to indicate I should be punching myself in the face constantly, not to stick something like that in Ray's family tree as well.

Anyway, it occurred to me today to go digging through a list of Polish surnames just to see what I could find. And sure enough, there it was.

There's a snickering little part of my brain that says Grandpa Max's surname could've been anything at all, but Grandpa Max's own mother originally hailed from a village currently called Vytvytsa that's located in the part of Poland that was absorbed by the Ukraine- and that *her* surname reflected that fact.

st00pid crossover bunny that won't even tell me what the hell I'm supposed to do with it.

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[mephron]

Bahahaha.

One of Ray's nephews looks oddly like a certain kid, and ends up being good friend with one of the later-to-arrive Autobots, who some people think is just a know-nothing punk....

And as far as cross-cultural conflicts? German/Welsh. (My surname is an anglification of 'Dyddew', as opposed to being French.) Which means that for two weeks ever summer I want to conquer France: one half because it's for liebensraum, the other in revenge for the bloody NORMANS shoving around the bloody SAXONS.

[camwyn]

Honestly, I'm beginning to think that the Law of Conservation of Awesome is simply diverting all the Awesome from fandoms that don't exist in Ray's world (e.g., the current Battlestar Galactica; most of "Firefly") into the fabric of reality. There's some Awesome loss along the way, of course, but that's a relatively small price to pay.

[camwyn]

... come to think of it, Alex totally has the personality for it. He's the older one, and the tetchier one of the two.

And now that I think about it, back when Ray's sister wouldn't let him teach the boys anything else because she thought he was turning them into freaks, Ray got them another teacher for the interim. Raven, who stole the Sun, really likes both of the boys. Joey took very well to Raven's 'how not to be seen' lessons.

Alex liked the part where Raven showed him how to fly by borrowing a feather from Raven and changing form to match.

So... yeah.

[drharper.livejournal.com]

*dies*

Can't talk! Sniggering too hard!

[pandoras-closet.livejournal.com]

I'll take Transformers/Ghostbusters for the win, Alex.

[derien.livejournal.com]

...aaand the other 1/4 is Scottish? I know, your Ray is not from the cartoon universe, but I recall liking the ep where he inherited the Scottish castle.

[camwyn]

I left the castle in the cartoon continuity, actually, along with being a Mets fan. Not that that wasn't a good ep, but it's been too long since I saw "Bustman's Holiday" for me to use it.

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[ymfaery]

...

I hope this is based on the movie I haven't seen yet, because I don't see the connection between your Russian/Polish background for Ray and Transformers.

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[camwyn]

In both the movie and the original cartoon, the Transformers were associated with the Witwicki family. Vytvytsa is the Russian or Ukrainian name for the village whose Polish name is Witwica- historically the source of the Witwicki surname. I'm proposing a cousin-level connection.

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[ymfaery]

You mean Spike and his dad in the original cartoon? Because I don't recall ever learning their last name. (Although the futuristic crossovers with GI Joe were pretty cool and funny.)

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[midnightlurker.livejournal.com]

Tiny nit: the canon spelling is Witwicky.

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[camwyn]

Simply enough accounted for by a) me being a little rusty on the subject and b) claiming Ray's family members in Poland/Russia/the Ukraine weren't always consistent at how they transliterated from the Cyrillic.

[midnightlurker.livejournal.com]

Okay, the Cybertronians now know exactly who to call the next time Starscream's ghost shows up and tries to possess someone... :)

[camwyn]

... of course they do. Yes, that would work.

"We're not putting that in the containment unit. He'll probably figure out how to possess the equipment and then we'll all be up to our necks in slag."

[midnightlurker.livejournal.com]

Consider also Megatron's SOP regarding odd new technologies: find a way to use them to conquer the world. There's got to be something he could do with the boys' gear, and he'd probably lie awake at night trying to figure it out. :)

...And what if they could get Ecto-1 rebuilt into a Transtector (a mindless human-pilotable Transformer-tech robot)? Hand-to-hand combat with the next super-sized ghost that comes around... extra points if Ray or Egon becomes a Headmaster cyborg to control it.

[camwyn]

All I really have to say about that?

http://bernest.deviantart.com/art/ecto-bot-roll-out-29902130

:D

[midnightlurker.livejournal.com]

I appear to be well behind the curve. ^.^

[almightyhat.livejournal.com]

*reading old entries, fell off LJ for a week, late comments all over the damn place*

Sweet good goddamn, that's made of all kinds of awesome. I maintain my position that there are certain fandoms that can be crossed over with anything and should be at every available opportunity.

Throw in Gargoyles and I am one happy camper.