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[camwyn]

And here are the ones from the cartoon.

http://pics.livejournal.com/gone_byebye/gallery/000037kq?page=2

I haven't got any pics of cartoon Egon because the hair scares me. I'll be over here with the movie Egon, thanks.

Comments

[neotoma.livejournal.com]

I love the "My fandom drives like a Blues Brother" icon, although Ray is the *real* dangerous driver in the toons.

Poor cartoon Egon is getting no love. Nor is cartoon Janine (who had some of the niftiest outfits).

[camwyn]

I've been re-watching the movie lately, and every time I do, I flinch harder at how the cartoon depicts Ray. They put all the group's brains into Egon's head, let out about a third of his weirdness, and sealed the hole with that bizarro hair of his- but the end result was that with all the brains in Egon's head, Ray came out looking like a dope just about every time. I hate that.

Might have to go back and look over some of the Janine stuff on the disc when I get the chance, but this is first season transfers from a VHS tape to DVD, so no guarantees of anything even remotely viable.

[neotoma.livejournal.com]

Hmm, I rather like cartoon Ray, and think he's brilliant. He's just a Gryffindor to his bones, and one in the style of Hagrid to boot ("Look, it's giant and deadly! Isn't it cool?!").

First season has the best Janine. The voice is right, she's occasionally brilliant, and she's absolutely not a pushover.

[camwyn]

I dunno. In the episodes I saw most recently, Egon had to do all the Brilliant Thinking; Ray periodically came up with weird dumb-luck ideas, but seemed more often to be on the short end of 'ha ha funny fat man' jokes. Mind, some of this is tainted by the horrible, horrible episode "Look Homeward, Ray". I suppose they meant to provide him a backstory, but I knew there was going to be trouble as soon as I saw him trying to wear a trenchcoat over his uniform- and it only went downhill from there.

Ray would not quit over a crisis of confidence induced by failure to get ghosts in his home town under control. Ray would never allow himself to work at a shoestore wearing a bunny costume because he didn't feel he could be a Ghostbuster any more. Even in the early scenes of the second movie, he at least had some kind of connection to the stuff he was educated in- that episode was an exercise in pure humiliation, and featured some of the worst Dumb Ray scenes I can remember. (We won't even go into the old sweetheart who apparently shops at the Sailor Moon American Woman Fuku counter, or the depiction of the townsfolk, or the rest of it- brr.)

[nesmith.livejournal.com]

As a writer dabbling in the fandom, I fall back on a technique I've used for years in the Monkees fandom; writing a character who's both canon and not canon. In the Monkees TV show, Peter was always "the dummy." Always getting in trouble and saying dumb things. However, I can't stand that portrayal (partially because the real Peter Tork is so damn intelligent), so I alter the way I render him just a little--instead of dumb, in my stories he's terribly naive and possessed of a nature that's almost unaware of evil as well as easily confused, which explains his behavior perfectly to the point where I can find canon evidence to support my rendering. So therefore he's in character and in line with the canon Peter, but he's lost the "dummy" veneer. So I'll probably do the same with Ray; keep the cute and sweet nature but make sure he's every bit as brilliant as Danny and Harold wrote him to be.

Shame the cartoon writers couldn't do that.

[neotoma.livejournal.com]

Well, if you're going to complain about the dippy backstories for the characters, how about when Egon quit because his uncle pulled on family ties? And later let the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man out of the containment unit (uhm, wasn't that *Gozer*?!)

At least Peter's dad makes sense, in a highly embarassing way.

Winston and Janine actually have normal families.

Do you at least have "The Spirit of Aunt Lois"? That's a better backstory for Ray, and it's another episode with the guys in civilian clothes.

[camwyn]

Unfortunately, I haven't got that episode(s). I only have a dim and vague recollection of anything at all to do with Egon's family other than Zedekiah Spengler, and I only remember him because he makes for great Harry Potter-verse connections. But sure, I'm willing to clap my hands over my eyes and make unhappy 'begone' noises at that too...

And the marshmallow man thing makes me spit just as much. They never trapped that thing! That was Gozer- they didn't trap it, they just sent it back! No deal, not unless they snagged a spirit somewhere along the way who'd been influenced by the sheer levels of 'AIEEE!' that Mr. Stay-puft engendered in traumatized Manhattanites. Which I doubt, but enh.

Alas, no, I don't have "Spirit of Aunt Lois" either. This disc has about 12 episodes out of the first season. I'm looking into options for acquiring more eps, though.

[midnightlurker.livejournal.com]

My theory re: the happy fun marshmallow man--it spontaneously congealed from the marshmallow residue scraped off their Evil Possessed Suits and dumped into the containment unit.

Why it stopped being evil is anyone's guess.

[vaspider]

These are awesome. One, in particular, I am going to make another icon for. (Have already made 2 from the movie screencaps. Thank you!)

[camwyn]

You're welcome! Glad you liked them. At some point I have to screencap "Slimer, Come Home", because that's the episode with Egon in a Ravenclaw scarf...

[vaspider]

... DUDE!

[camwyn]

Well, seriously. It's blue and sort of browny-orange. It's not the right orange for New York Mets colours, and it's not even close to being pinkish... I stared at it for several minutes before deciding, "Okay, yeah, that's blue and bronze, HE'S WEARING A RAVENCLAW SCARF IN 1986!!!".

[vaspider]

Rockin'. I totally love it.

[derien.livejournal.com]

y'know... yeah. Movie Egon is teh sex.

[camwyn]

No arguments here, although as I was forced to concede last year, Otto Octavius as of Spider-Man 2 was the sexier scientist. I mean Egon no offense, but after years of watching martial arts movies, I respond to the way the guy moves as much as how he looks.

[dragomorph.livejournal.com]

Mwaaaah. Some of those cartoon Peter icons make me melt.

(And good Lord, you're Ray and Egon as well? How do you keep up so many characters?)

Dragomorph
"I can only really do one..."

[camwyn]

Detritus is easy, since he's really a room-temperature IQ and a funny accent. Similarly, Constantine is easy, since the nasty parts of my psyche match up with just about all the parts of his psyche to a degree you wouldn't believe. Sergeant Preston... well, I listened to most of the existing radio canon a while ago and absorbed it. Preston is a bit harder than the other two, since in addition to being the living embodiment of the Lawful Good alignment, I have to make him sound right.

Ray and Egon are just loads of fun and make my day more interesting, so I can usually make time for them. Besides, I need to keep in practice with their voices so I can get the next chapter of Who Ya Gonna Owl? done soon.