And this is how we know we are sick, on more levels than one:

[camwyn]

Tharks are green. There is no green race in Oz, but there is a green country in the center. The Tharks could pretty easily be shifted onto the Emerald City if need be- except that in the first books the Emerald City was secretly white. It might therefore be more acceptable to make the Emerald City equate to Dor; after all, didn't everyone want to go there but no one really know who was at its centre?

Of course, this makes it rather difficult to justify Dorothy being sent back. No one returns from Dor, after all. Hmm. . . perhaps we can pull some sort of a switch. "Bring me the metal of the Goddess Issus!" Which would only work with Dorothy 'cos she doesn't know just how powerful an enemy she's going to be facing. I think I could see that.

Dorothy to be mistaken for a thern, of course. White dress, white skin, blond hair.

The Quadlings of Glinda's country are not a problem at all. Whatsername- Dejah Thoris- instead of Glinda.

The Winkies are also not a problem. Yellow Men with black beards? Instant Winkie. True, they live in the far north and are almost never heard of until book 3, but eh. Oz needs to dominate somewhere.

The Munchkins are a bit of a problem, dressing in blue as they do. The Gillikuns also don't map out. Map the Gillikuns to the First Born and change the Munchkins for the Tharks.

The Scarecrow's going to be a bit difficult to match. The Tin Man was originally a Munchkin, which makes my life a lot easier, because he becomes Tars Tarkas the Tin Thark. The Tin Woodsman got hacked up as the result of a curse placed on him for falling in love with a girl, after all. Tars Tarkas + Gozava OMGtheirloveissounTharklike.

Cowardly Lion = Woola, who is capable of rather clearer telepathy than in the John Carter books. (Dorothy Carter?)

. . . wait, no, that's the ticket, the Scarecrow can be Kantos Kan, who was John Carter's good buddy and an officer in the navy of Helium.

No Flying Monkeys. There isn't really anything that maps to the… no, never mind, forgot. The Monkeys are the servants of the Wicked Witch, albeit unwillingly. (So are the Winkies, but we can ignore that for the moment.) They're being controlled by the Golden Cap, right? Okay, so, the Golden Cap = yellow wig + thern diadem. The Flying Monkeys map out to the black pirates of Barsoom, which means the monkeys are the same thing as the Gillikuns, but I think we can probably arrange something on that front. . . no. No, as scary as the pirates/First Born are, the flying monkeys are just going to have to be replaced with the White Apes of Mars.

Thuvia = Ozma?




Oh, well, hadn't done anything to get me sent to Hell in a month or two anyway.

Comments

[hangingfire.livejournal.com]

Y'know, not only am I processing this through the original sources, but also through "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" (comic; of the film we do not speak) and Phil Foglio's "Xxxenophile" spoof of the John Carter-esque Mars civilisations. That leads to a very strange bend in the brain indeed.

Pretty brilliant, though...

[camwyn]

Welcome to the inside of my head.

[hangingfire.livejournal.com]

I dunno, I kind of like it. It's a more interesting place than mine has been, of late.

Save some nachos in Hell for me, won't y'all?

[mattador.livejournal.com]

*laughs until he chokes*

[camwyn]

At least in Hell it will be warm.

(Have not betrayed anyone, unless the authors want to make a case for this; am not Darkovan; therefore, Hell = warm.)

[mattador.livejournal.com]

Fair enough. And hey, acording to popular opnion, I will be there as well. With nachos.

[camwyn]

yay! Hellbound nachos!

[colubra.livejournal.com]

you forgot Niven's novella Rainbow Mars.

[camwyn]

Haven't read. Don't plan to. 's hard enough to do a crossover when you're only breeding two fictions together.

Philip Jose "Good God, man, you should really get some therapy for that" Farmer's A Barnstormer in Oz is ALSO not being counted. I read that. Once. A long time ago. Put me off Farmer for life.

[sundre.livejournal.com]

o my. i've only got one barsoom book on my shelf. you know i'm going to go reread it now, don't you? and the wonderful wizard as well. and i'm going to go searching for The Number of the Beast again for good measure. argle.

let me know if you need some marshmallows down there.

[camwyn]

I've read, let's see... A Princess of Mars, The Gods of Mars, The Warlord of Mars, and The Chessmen of Mars, myself. Still got to locate Thuvia, Maid of Mars. The Oz books are al available online, all thirteen or fourteen of them- makes life easier trying to read through them all...

[midnightlurker.livejournal.com]

I don't suppose the other Oz books are online anywhere? The ones by Ruth Plumly Thompson et al?

[camwyn]

I haven't bothered looking for them. I read the first Ruth Plumly Thompson book and failed to be impressed by it, so I haven't put any effort into looking for the rest. However, adaptations of several later Oz books are available at Jim Hanley's Comic Universe, so they're still in circulation in dead tree form. Somewhere, anyway.

[almeda.livejournal.com]

Not old enough to be automatically out of copyright, I'm afraid (the rule-of-thumb cutoff for US works is pre-1923).

[midnightlurker.livejournal.com]

Oh yes, and most if not all of the Mars books can be found online.

[sundre.livejournal.com]

mine's a combined volume of chessmen and thuvia. i only have the first oz book, but i've read two others. they're on my list. you know, the one of all the books i've decided that i'm "supposed" to read. i should be committed.

the heinlein one had some good bits, but really didn't make me happy overall. i only mention it because his fictional folx visit both barsoom and oz.

[dragonwhishes.livejournal.com]

*Makes mental note never to introduce you to Fash. (http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=pingpong_abyss)*

[kyrielle]

I'll take your word that this is a sign of being sick. It's just nonsensical to me since I hardly know more of the Wizard of Oz than the movie, and I can't even identify your other source. :)

[midnightlurker.livejournal.com]

What about the Kaldanes, and the Skeleton Men of Jupiter? ^.^

[camwyn]

The kaldanes can be accounted for by placing them in one of the Weird Little Countries encountered along the way. Dorothy did, after all, run into that country of living china figures when she was trying to make her way to Glinda's place in the first book. Maybe they can be like that country where people stand still but their furniture comes to them (am I remembering right? It's been a while, and there were thirteen books...). As regards the skeleton men of Jupiter, I haven't got as far as that book, so I really couldn't say.