Ahem.

Dec. 4th, 2004 04:44 pm
camwyn: Me in a bomber jacket and jeans standing next to a green two-man North Andover Flight Academy helicopter. (Amnesty)
[personal profile] camwyn
I missed the opportunity on 3 December, but that's no reason to stay quiet now.

I do not believe in Satan. I am a Catholic by upbringing and a Christian by faith regardless of what the Great White Father in Rome might say that I do not agree with, but I do not believe in the Devil. Why?

Because human beings, on their own, require no help at all to do the things credited to the Adversary.

Ask the people of Bhopal, India what happened twenty years ago because human beings were greedy and careless. Ask what happens when human beings decide they would rather have money in their pockets than life in someone else's heart and light in someone else's eyes.

In the face of the horrors that humanity visits upon themselves and the world we live on, why am I a Christian? Why do I believe in a kindly, compassionate God when monstrosity is brought down on the heads of people simply because they are poor and brown and far away?

Because of people like this. And people like this. And people like this, and this, and this, and this, and this.

It is easy to be comfortable. It is natural, in the sense of 'what one expects from things of nature', not to think much beyond the borders of one's genetic group and immediate environment. It takes something more to look beyond that, and to reach beyond one's self, which is what these people are doing.

Even if I am wrong about Jesus (and I do not think I am), I believe in God because of the people who choose to help, the people who choose to act- because inaction and entropy are the way to destruction, to the light going out. Goodness comes from conscious thought or subconscious action taken from learned behavior long ago. Goodness is born in the moment when someone says 'if that were me-' and decides that it is important to act on that thought.

Evil is not money- evil is concentrating on money at the expense of life, at the expense of thinking about life. Evil is choosing, deliberately, to ignore the idea that something might have happened to you, had you been in different circumstances. Evil is choosing, subconsciously, to walk in blindness because it is easier that way. Evil is allowing carelessness that takes a life when you know there is another way. Carelessness that takes a life when you did not know- that is bad, yes, that is horrible, but that is not the same. The industrialist who builds a building and lines its walls with asbestos because he thinks he is keeping his people safe from fire is not evil if he does not know that asbestos causes cancer. Evil begins when he is presented with proof, with truth, and denies it to keep his money. From there it spirals out of control, for entropy is the easy path- unless someone stops it.

I believe in goodness because I have seen it in action. I believe that human beings are capable of it unless they are so far debased that they have lost both the ability and the desire to empathize, or are lost in self-hatred too great to overcome. I believe that goodness is part of the so-called divine spark, the moment in human evolution which the Catholic Church teaches us was the point where God distinguished human ancestors as something special and wondrous. From that point on in history, it is up to us to do good, to live up to that spark and reach out to the world around us, knowing that to do otherwise is to bring on the winter darkness that will never lift.

I cannot be silent. I will not. Not while I have some way to write, to speak, to do good. I got a new job this year, in Corporate America. It pays well. The Christian message is very clear: from those to whom much is given, much is expected.

I'll be at the post office on Monday.

Date: 2004-12-04 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ebony14.livejournal.com
"A belief in a supernatural source of evil is not necessary; men alone are capable of every wickedness." - Joseph Conrad

Date: 2004-12-04 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nesmith.livejournal.com
Because human beings, on their own, require no help at all to do the things credited to the Adversary.

Well, we were given free will and made "sufficient to stand, though free to fall."

Many people today look at Satan as not so much a real, physical creature, but a way of explaining HOW there can be such cruelty and suffering in the world. But that always to me smacks of shifting blame, imho.

And yes, Union Carbide is/was evil.

Date: 2004-12-04 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kali921.livejournal.com
Thank you for posting this, hon, and linking to me. You've said more eloquently what I tried to say yesterday, when I did my entry.

Date: 2004-12-04 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonwhishes.livejournal.com
That was great.

I don't think I can say it any other way.

Date: 2004-12-04 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charliesmum.livejournal.com
Yes!

Totally agree.

9/11 being a perfect example. What happened that day wasn't the devil or Satan, it was humans being horrible to each other. During that time though, we also got to see humans reaching out to one and other, and that's where we saw God. Everyone has the capability of being more evil than any pointy eared devil could even think of being. Like Crowley said, we have imagination. And electricity. But humans also have the capability of showing infinite goodness. We make the choice.

You will like this poem

Date: 2004-12-04 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charliesmum.livejournal.com
Remember Terry Anderson? One of the hostages in Iran? (or Iraq, can't remember which right now) He wrote poems in his head while chained up for all those years, and this is one of them. Satan (http://wiredforbooks.org/poetry/anderson/satan.htm)

One of the most powerful pieces I've ever read.

Oh, and...

Date: 2004-12-04 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] subtle-guns.livejournal.com

Let's not forget these people, (www.peta.org) who go out of their way to fight for creatures that don't even have a voice.

Re: Oh, and...

Date: 2004-12-04 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] subtle-guns.livejournal.com
*cough* wasn't me *cough* Logan *cough*

Actually, I wonder if PETA considers Logan an animal in need of protection from abuse.

I hope not.

Re: Oh, and...

Date: 2004-12-05 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelathefinn.livejournal.com
I got Costeau. Interesting. Nice site - thanks for pointing me that way.

Date: 2004-12-04 07:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] batyatoon
I kinda love you, you know that?

Bhopal

Date: 2004-12-05 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelathefinn.livejournal.com
Camwyn, you mean this did not make the news in the USA? Before Bush was re-elected, I would have said 'unbelievable'. It is disheartening to realise that twenty years have gone by since the Bhopal Disaster, and so little has been done. Thank you for posting this. It simply did not occur to me that it needed to be done. In other news, on the AIDS front, medical researchers in Sweden have an HIV vaccine that will be ready for clinical trials next summer, and the Finns who had a vaccine that was still 18 mos away from clincal trials have joined forces with them, pooling their research. Thought you'd like to know. And, you did know that part of the work of the RIPS Programme (the Finnish bilateral coop. programme I worked with all summer) is a 'borrow-a-goat-lend-a-goat' project that takes 'Heifer' one step further. Maybe I should post about that...
And I stopped being Xtian a long time ago, although I honour Our Lady still, and visit Her shrines wherever I find them, and think Jesus was a Budhisatva, among other Holy Men, BUT I agree with you that humans need no outside evil. Both evil and good lie in all our hearts, and I know I am capable of evil - but it is our choice, and I think knowing I am capable of it keeps me alive to it and watching out for it.
And now for something completely different: Where do I join the Unemployed Philosophers' Guild?

Re: Bhopal

Date: 2004-12-06 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelathefinn.livejournal.com
The HIV vaccine will be tested in Tanzania, so I've got that connection, too. And thanks for the Guild's address, looks like my kind of place.

Date: 2004-12-05 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zakkati.livejournal.com
Well said!

I believe in a God. My God does not care what name we give Him/Her: God is God!

Sometimes I am asked how I can believe in a God that lets such terrible things happen in the world.

My answer? Yes, of course God could stop all the bad stuff, but what's the point of that? This is our place and time. It's down to us to right the wrongs of this world. God knows the answers; but we have to find them for ourselves. Earth is heaven & hell: what happens tomorrow depends upon our actions today.

But that's just my view.


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Date: 2004-12-10 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quintus.livejournal.com
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