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I've seen my cat Shula attempt to unlock the door before. He sits on his hind legs and bats at the doorknob, giving every impression of attempting to swat the little knoblet in the middle that controls the lock. I have generally ignored this, as there are three locks on that door and he'd have to get the deadbolt next to get them all open even if he did figure out how to work the doorknob.

However.

A while ago I bought a DVD player for someone via Amazon and it was delivered to my place by mistake. The box sits next to my apartment door. Last week I put the cat carrier on top of that box, because I had brought the cats back in after boarding them safely out of the exterminators' way. This night just past I heard a RATTLErattleRATTLErattle noise from the direction of the door and went to see.

Shula had climbed up on top of the cat carrier and was furiously batting at the chain lock on the topmost part of the door.

I'd worry about him more, except that he's clearly not bright enough to realise that the deadbolt is his major obstacle. He's a cat. He hasn't got a collarbone. He can fit through any opening that'll admit his head. The way I figure it, if he can figure out how to undo the knob and the deadbolt locks and turn the knob and pull, he'll get the door open enough, chain or no.

And frankly? If the cat figures out how to do all that, he deserves to get out. I'll have some tuna waiting for him when he gets back.
aberrantangels: (furry)
From: [personal profile] aberrantangels
Our cat Phantom, who died last August, figured out the knob to our back door in Mississippi, at least to the extent that when he wanted to go out, he'd hop up on the fireplace bricks, where our stack of old newspapers often put his paws within reach of the knob, and balance himself thereby until we let him out. Sadly, in neither of the apartments here in Chambersburg, nor in the current townhouse, was there anything to stand on that put him within reach of the doorknobs. 8-(

Date: 2006-02-09 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityday.livejournal.com
Your cat rocks.

Date: 2006-02-09 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whobunkyboo.livejournal.com
My cat knows how to work the locks.


She sits directly beneath them, staring unblinkingly up at them until a two-legged ape walks by to unlock them. This technique also works with empty munchy bowls and gravy dishes.
aberrantangels: (furry)
From: [personal profile] aberrantangels
I'm not sure whether to encourage this sort of creative problem solving or not; this is the cat who regularly plays Does Gravity Still Work

...Yeah, you probably don't want to encourage him, Galactic disapproval or no.

Date: 2006-02-09 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ahmeemee.livejournal.com
Speaking of cats...actually, no, apropos of nothing, what is that on your icon's head? At first I thought they were ears of some sort, but then I realised that the icon already had ears, and now my theory is that they're blind moles with giant overbites.

There's...

Date: 2006-02-09 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unsigned.livejournal.com

..a quote about cats, opposable thumbs, and the evolutionary ladder.

I don't remember it specifically, but it cautions (tongue-in-cheek sorta way) that cats just may not be our friends. Predators, claws, intelligence, and opposable thumbs...

Are we but a future food source?

Date: 2006-02-09 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moiety-tx.livejournal.com
I've got a friend whose cats regularly unplug her fridge. At this point, I believe the power cable is held in place with masses of duct tape, so at least she has a better chance of catching them at it.

It leaves me almost thankful for my cat Karma being quite as stupid as she is!

Date: 2006-02-09 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
There's a relatively common mutation in domestic cats that causes polydactyly -- in some cases the extra digits are opposable, giving the cat the manual dexterity of a raccoon. I dimly remember reading about some fannish cat-breeders who were selecting for this mutation and for intelligence...

-- [livejournal.com profile] zwol, from a café

Date: 2006-02-09 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feonixrift.livejournal.com
I had a cat once that had a extra finger on each paw, and could use them all perfectly. I've known raccoons with less dexterity than that cat, it got into *everything*.

thumbs

Date: 2006-02-09 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] almeda.livejournal.com
Leslie Fish has been conducting a selective-breeding-for-intelligence-and-educability experiment for over twenty years, starting with a foundation bloodline including a Siamese. Just recently she introduced a double-pawed Maine Coon cross. The latest generations are learning to use these extra, opposed toes FOR MANIPULATION.

I would note that a friend of mine bought two of her culls (neutered and given as pets to people she trusts to raise them right), who were NOT SMART ENOUGH TO KEEP IN THE POOL, by Leslie's lights. However, within two weeks the kittens were framing her dog for their nefarious food-related crimes so thoroughly that it took my friend six months to figure out that it WASN'T the dog. Delayed gratification. Long-term planning. Decoys.

These cats are scary. :->

Re: There's...

Date: 2006-02-09 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unsigned.livejournal.com

Yeah, but its just the whole general cat thing.

I mean it's like the cloned kitty that came out a different color, and with different markings than the 'source' kitty.

They have ways of making you talk, and exasperating humans in general.
From: [identity profile] pandoras-closet.livejournal.com
Uplift. If that's the book I'm thinking of, I really need to read it. One of these days.

Re: thumbs

Date: 2006-02-09 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That woman is clearly plotting the downfall of the human race.

Date: 2006-02-09 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarekofvulcan.livejournal.com
Maybe it's a Feline Wizard, trying to go out and save the world from the Lone Power. :-)

Date: 2006-02-09 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sookail.livejournal.com
if he can figure out how to undo the knob and the deadbolt locks and turn the knob and pull

No way. It`s the "turn the knob" part that always stops them.

Date: 2006-02-09 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lasa.livejournal.com
Forgive a dog comment?
The people that used to live in our house had two dogs that learned how to turn the doorknobs. They were Labs, and they'd bat them with their paws until they turned. It helps that this house is craftsman-y style, and the doorknobs are oval shaped - but I was still impressed. My dog has no clue it's at all achievable.

Date: 2006-02-09 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lwood.livejournal.com
If so, then he could jolly well use the Ailurin Mason's Word and sidle between the door's molecules and not potentially tip his hand with transparent doorknob ploys. ;)

-- Lorrie

Re: thumbs

Date: 2006-02-09 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lwood.livejournal.com
I've heard of these cats, a tale where they'd learned to hunt in a pack -- with the smallest kitten used as a decoy to catch many large, plump birds.

Yep, the Age of Monkeys is nearly over, and I for one welcome our new feline masters. 8-P

-- Lorrie

Cats and Deadbolts

Date: 2006-02-10 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelathefinn.livejournal.com
We had a cat in Hawaii who figured out how to open the knob lock and get out. Our neighbour, who hated that the cats killed birds, despite my saying that if he could catch it, it was probably on its way out anyway, well, SHE used to be livid with us for not keeping the cat inside. We told her he could open the door. She didn't believe us until she saw him doing it one day. THEN we got a deadbolt in addition to the knob lock. Ahem. Nohoohoo sat and watched the deadbolt for about a week, and one fine night, he let himself out. We figure that he first stood on his hind legs so he could push the bolt, then he ran full tilt at the knob, batting and turning it - the door swung out, and he dropped off.
We got another bolt and put it up where he couldn't reach it.
Good luck.

Cats and doorknobs and deadbolts.

Date: 2006-02-10 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelathefinn.livejournal.com
See story about Nohoohoo below. Obviously Nohoohoo was smarter than the average cat - or possibly, more desperate to get out and add bird and rat to his diet.

Re: thumbs, Leslie Fish, and opposed thumb cats

Date: 2006-02-10 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelathefinn.livejournal.com
OH! I want a pet like THAT!!! As a linguist, I'd like to try and teach them to TALK!!!

Re: There's...

Date: 2006-02-10 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyorn.livejournal.com
Predators, claws, intelligence, and opposable thumbs...

Mind Control (http://loom.corante.com/archives/2006/01/17/the_return_of_the_puppet_masters.php)...

Date: 2006-02-11 11:32 pm (UTC)
aberrantangels: (geek)
From: [personal profile] aberrantangels
That's Salusian!Camwyn, and those are her primary ears!

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