A foolish little thing to be proud of:
May. 28th, 2004 06:11 pmI went into the comic book store today after getting my first photographic driver's license in almost ten years. Fell into a discussion with the guy there, and I mentioned that I'd seen the Constantine trailer. After some discussion of why I did not rip out my eyeballs, he suddenly pointed at me.
"You know- you're the only person I know who pronounces it right."
I'd pronounced the syllable as 'tine', like the tines of a fork, rather than like the first syllable of 'teenager'. I don't know where I picked that up from, since I seem to remember the nuns using 'teen' for the last syllable of the name of the emperor who legalised Christianity. "Force of habit," I said.
"I wouldn't know that except that a few months ago I read a very early Swamp Thing, and John corrected Swamp Thing's pronunciation of his name," said the comic book store guy. "From Constanteen to Constantine."
For some reason, I was inordinately pleased to have got it right.
"You know- you're the only person I know who pronounces it right."
I'd pronounced the syllable as 'tine', like the tines of a fork, rather than like the first syllable of 'teenager'. I don't know where I picked that up from, since I seem to remember the nuns using 'teen' for the last syllable of the name of the emperor who legalised Christianity. "Force of habit," I said.
"I wouldn't know that except that a few months ago I read a very early Swamp Thing, and John corrected Swamp Thing's pronunciation of his name," said the comic book store guy. "From Constanteen to Constantine."
For some reason, I was inordinately pleased to have got it right.
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Date: 2004-05-28 03:49 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2004-05-28 05:51 pm (UTC)Did you notice that they got it wrong in the trailer?
As to the pronunciation, I think Dad (who should know; working class working toward middle class background - lessons in how to talk and all) put it this way: If I'm trying to be posh its Constanteen, but if I'm just saying it normally its Constantine. And since John is so very far from posh (I mean, Liverpool? - Joke, guys. I'm not that prejudiced against people outside London. Really), I figure its probably Constantine.
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Date: 2004-05-28 06:12 pm (UTC)And, yeah, John is all but the opposite of posh, he's proved that time and again.
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Date: 2004-05-28 06:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-28 07:03 pm (UTC)This is why I prefer writing.
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Date: 2004-05-28 07:21 pm (UTC)The scene that guy is talking about is from Rick Veitch’s run as the writer of Swamp Thing. Alan Moore, who created John Constantine, pronounces it -teen. So the answer depends on your opinions about the canonicity of auctorial statements that don’t show up in the actual text, the relative authorities of an original author versus later authors in a multi-author work, and other such things.
But anyone who says that one pronunciation is indisputably right probably doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
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Date: 2004-05-28 08:17 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2004-05-29 09:46 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-30 02:13 am (UTC)Nonetheless, I've spent years correcting the pronounciation of Constantine's name. I would stick with the unusual version of it simply because it fits his personality to insist on not saying it like everyone else does.