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camwyn ([personal profile] camwyn) wrote2005-07-22 08:47 am

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So.

New York City's gonna do random searches of people's bags if they wanna get on the subway and 'people who don't want to be searched are perfectly free to turn around and leave the station'.

Show of hands- do I start carrying a bag full of mousetraps, or should I start carrying a bag full of some formulation of Play-Doh that feels like dog crap if a cop puts his hand on it? Not that I dislike the members of the NYPD; I'm very fond of cops in general. But since the city doesn't seem to think that the Constitution matters any more (small surprise, since Washington doesn't either)- or that this constitutes a reasonable search and seizure- I'd like to make it plain that if you're going to search me, ever, you are going to have to pay for that privilege.

I'm thinkin' the play-doh. Or a can of non-dairy creamer with a lid that comes off easily- no, then they'd go "ACK ANTHRAX" and I'd be late for work. But you get the idea.

Suggestions?

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[identity profile] maps-or-guitars.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I just read a quote from Grand Moff Commissioner Kelly.

'Mr. Kelly suggested that riders could voluntarily speed the process. "Ideally, people wouldn't carry any backpacks or bulky packages on the transit system," he said.'

He really said that. He did.

Evidently, he's got into the *strong* crack. Dunno about you, but between a) the gym b) my skating and c)my need to be dressed in something other than fetid gym togs at work means that every single day I have to come in carrying a fairly substantial backpack, and so do lots and lots of regular commuters.

Excuse me but AIAIAIAAIIAAIAAIAAAIAAAIIIAIAIGh.
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[personal profile] mephron 2005-07-22 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Love to hear his definition of 'bulky'.

I have a Dell Inspiron XPS2. Even if I used a bag different from the XPS2 backpack? I think a laptop with a 17" screen, and its powerbrick, is going to come under the concept of 'bulky', even if there's nothing else in there.

Like my iPod, or its powerbrick, or my phone, or a novel....

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[identity profile] mcnate.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
One and a half to two units, because of their backpacks? Sigh. When I started taking public transit with a backpack (sometimes a very full pack), I made sure to get one that was built so that I could still take only one space with it.

Shameless Plug for Eagle Industries A-III-P-L Pack (http://www.eagleindustries.com/ProdDisp.asp?PartNoID=8). I got it in black, of course.
Shameless Plug for Eagle Industries DETS Pack (http://www.eagleindustries.com/ProdDisp.asp?PartNoID=412), which I almost got instead.

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[identity profile] firestrike.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Even with a streamlined pack, you still take up more space than you would without it. Depending on your build, your pack will add ~50% to your required square footage. It's actually more efficient to let the people with medium luggage (backpacks, small duffels and such) have the seats and put their gear on their lap.

-M

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[identity profile] mcnate.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Around here, that's space that wasn't going to be available to another person anyway (at least, if I'm seated, which normally isn't a problem out here), unless they're interested in getting really personal with me.

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[identity profile] firestrike.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay. On the bus during the morning commute around here, we're sometimes packed in cheek-by-jowl to the point that dropping my pack and kicking it under the seat next to me when I'm standing in the aisle makes a noticeable difference. I guess it probably depends on your transit system and the hours that you're on it.

-M

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[identity profile] firestrike.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but how often does he have to carry his own gear and take the subway to work? It might make perfect sense in his reality.

-M

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[identity profile] maps-or-guitars.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Kelly? Carrying things? On a subway? HUH. Right.

He's Commissioner of the NYPD: He's in charge of the world's FIFTH LARGEST Armed force. I think he has litterbearers and a bunch of flacks to take turns carrying his cellphone and calling him "Bwana."

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[identity profile] firestrike.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. He probably can't remember what it's like for those members of the lower orders who actually have to schlep their own briefcase, let alone the poor schmucks with lunch, gym clothes, laptop and text books.

-M

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[identity profile] eor.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Ewwww, gym cloths. I hadn't thought of those as a Weapon of Mass Destruction form of civil disobedience.

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[identity profile] maps-or-guitars.livejournal.com 2005-07-22 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
You have *no* idea.

The Horror.

The _Horror_.